What is the reason behind some people referring to themselves as "nice guys" instead of simply being nice?
09.06.2025 00:35
The Bad Boy Trope is about matching up a Nice Girl and a Bad Boy. For example, Rose and Charlie in Two and a Half Men.
Bad Boys (Bad Girls) = guys (girls) that prefer real relationship over committed relationship
The Nice Guy Trope is about matching up a Nice Guy and a Bad Girl. For example, Leonard and Penny in the Big Bang Theory.
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Western value (and Middle Eastern value) is against real relationship (love and infatuation) and favor committed relationship (Boyfriend/girlfriend term or husband/wife term and believe you must try make it last forever.
Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory is actually also a part of the Bad Boy trope. He represent guys that are not interest in general. A further example, in Nicklas Cage’s character in the movie, The family man
The idea of why girls always go for the asshole is a Nice Guy trope idea, building upon the principle of the Bad Boy trope, assuming all women are in the Nice Girl category and building upon such Bad Boy Trope theory saying those in the Bad Girl category are idiots, not knowing how lucky she is having a guy willing to give her a wedding ring, while so many Nice Girls are getting rejected by the Bad Boys. And arguing for those Bad Boys for mistreating women by rejecting her due to he is only interest in something casual or not interest in general. Therefore, to a larger degree, argue the Nice Guy are treating women right, because he is willing to give a wedding ring and the Bad Girl is an idiot not knowing how lucky she is. Assuming all guys opposite to the Bad Boys are great guys, the Nice Guys are often entitled narcissist assholes, not respecting women’s autonomy when she is not interest and the blame is put on the woman calling her an idiot not knowing how lucky she is having a guy willing to give her a wedding ring.
The reality of the concept of Nice Guy and Bad Boy is, what if the guy willing to give you a wedding ring is a wife beater. As for the Bad Boy, Charlie and Barney never misled any woman to believe it is a serious, exclusive or committed relationships to get her in bed. So, ow is that mistreating women. Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory is just not that interest in relationships. What is wrong about that?
Such attitude of modern feminism is the base of “Nice Guys and Bad Boys” expressed through leftist media.
Basically, it is bias in favor of the Nice Guy and Nice Girl to the degree of that of an entitled narcissist, not respecting the autonamy of others, when the others are only interest and available for a casual relationship or not interest in general.
Pop culture example included Rose from Two and a Half Men, Amy from the Big Bang Theory, Ted from How I Met Your Mother and Leonard from the Big Bang Theory
This contrast some other culture such as East Asia that favor real relationships over committed relationships and letting go when it is time to let go. (This is also why K-pop is so romance drama and comedy is so good compare to western ones. Because, K-drama and other East Asian drama focus on whether it is a real relationship. Western drama focus on whether it is a committed relationship)
Usually the Nice Guy mentality and the Bad Boy mentality is that Nice Guy treat women as object. As if a piece of art work in a fine art gallery. If you are the goddess level hot girl, you be the prize collection. If you are the ugly girl…well…I guess you are the ones that can’t be sold and into the trash. And this is how Nice Guy treat women and therefore, the idea behind the code of chiverly regarding how you treat a lady.
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Nice Guys v.s. Bad Boy, Fuck Boy or Chad or whatever you want to call them is a western pop culture construct.
Modern feminism is about committed relationship over real relationship. So, it turn around and blame men that are not interest in a commitment, when a girl is hoping for a committed relationship, hence the term “Guys that won’t commit are jerks treating women like crap!”
Right wing included for example Christianity think infatuation to be a sin. (Their exact word is lust is a sin, but it is basically the same thing. Infatuation just sound classier.)
It used to be that feminists side with real relationship over committed relaitonhip. So, it teaches women that she got no need to get marry if she choose not to do so.
Left wing feminism thinking got the same problem. For example, feminists often say things such as “If you dump a girl after you got bored it is treating women like crap!” (Translation: If you are dating a girl you are not interest in, you keep leading her on. Otherwise it is treating women like crap!)
Bad Boy treat women as human been. This also influence how they treat goddess level hot girl and how they treat ugly girls.
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But, this especially influence how Bad Boy and Nice Guys treat hot girls, especially those of goddess level, a woman of grace, elegance and beauty. Nice Guy treat her as if the prize piece of art work in the art gallery to be possess by collectors. Bad Boy thinking “Hot dame! I want to do her from behind!” But, he still be treating her with the autonamy and respect deserving of a human.
Nice Guys (Nice Girls) = guys (girls) that prefer committed relationship over real relationship
Pop culture example included Charlie from Two and a Half Men, Robin from How I Met Your Mother, Barney from How I Met Your Mother and Penny from the Big Bang Theory.
Anti real relationship exist in both the left and the right.